A game mix-up, and investigating if Georgie likes movies rated less than 8.0 or that have the number “2” in them.
A game mix-up, and investigating if Georgie likes movies rated less than 8.0 or that have the number “2” in them.
Geoff 0:09
And welcome back to another episode of test and roast. I'm your co host, Jeff, and as always, I'm here with the co host, Georgie.
Georgie 0:18
I thought we weren't saying co host anymore.
Geoff 0:21
I mean, like, I've got the habit. I read it already. It's too late. Just
Georgie 0:26
change. Like, next week, we'll just not be a co host. We'll just be ourselves, and then a week off, so we'll put the hats back on.
Geoff 0:34
Yeah. I mean, do you at work at like, the hats as well, like someone has so my form, they had hats, so they would say the team lead is in charge, like responsible, ultimately responsible for the delivery of the team and the tech. The Tech like the quality of the product being engineered by the team, but you can opt for a staff engineer on the team to wear the tech lead hat, meaning that they will do whatever like needs to be done to keep the health of the code base and engineering high quality, like
Georgie 1:24
all the time, or just for like a week, or something like a role all the
Geoff 1:29
time. It's all the time. But you also get things like feature leads, which, which is a rotating hat in the pub.
Georgie 1:38
Yeah, yeah. Feature leads, yeah, got that. But my team is like tiny team of two people, and we're just like rogue bitches, so I think we both wear the hats all the time. And then when I don't fucking feel like my hat, I'll throw it at Chris, and then he can wear, like an entire stack of hats. And then sometimes, when we're just not in the fucking mood, neither of us will wear hats. We'll just throw them in the ocean.
Geoff 2:12
You just go on strike.
Georgie 2:14
Yeah, just be I feel like doing any roadmap planning today. Fuck let's play a game.
Geoff 2:23
Yeah? Well, for my last day, we just played played board games. All play board
Georgie 2:33
games, yay, yeah, we played werewolf. That's rough. Wait, is it werewolf? Was it were words
Geoff 2:43
the werewolf is when you know it's have have, like, secret identities, and you have to try figure out who the
Georgie 2:51
werewolf is and who the seer is. Yeah, yeah. I realized I hadn't played that, so I played that a bunch of times, and it's like the first four times, the first four times I was the werewolf every single fucking time.
Geoff 3:06
Oh no,
Georgie 3:06
I was like, stop dealing me this bitch. But it was fun.
Geoff 3:13
Yeah, it's kind of like a social engineering type game for those unfamiliar, like you generally have like, four more people. I don't think what's the I think there's a minimum. We
Georgie 3:27
had eight, oh, we had like, seven, and then we had eight, and then when you have eight, you have two people with the role of the werewolf,
Geoff 3:38
yeah, oh, man, this annoying.
Georgie 3:42
So there's a mayor, and the mayor has the word mayor, Mayor, Mayor. Which one is the US version of saying such a
Geoff 3:52
the New Zealand version is may like, Mayor, mayor, Mayor. Yeah, I hear New Zealanders.
Georgie 4:01
I'm not sure. I feel like I've heard it said more as, Wow, what have I been doing with my life? So the person who is dealing is the fuck, I'll say mayor, then is the fucking mayor? Yeah, they pick the word and at different points in time, like because people got to close their eyes and stuff the werewolf, the werewolf, or werewolves and seer look at the word as well, and people ask questions about like to try and figure out what the word is like. Is it bigger than a house? Is it a living thing, etc? And,
Geoff 4:51
wait, what is it bigger than a house?
Georgie 4:54
Wait, are you thinking of a different Yeah, what?
Geoff 4:59
Here we go.
Georgie 4:59
No, that's not it. I'm saying were words not werewolf.
Geoff 5:05
I thought we established that were you were saying werewolf, not werewolf. No,
Georgie 5:09
I'm saying I was the werewolf. But the game is werewolf. I think werewolf is the one where I see people play it. I'm like, yeah, like you said, Would you say that's intense, or that's like, Whoa, yeah. No, thank you.
Geoff 5:22
The I feel like the social engineering of Werewolf gets like old after a couple rounds.
Georgie 5:31
I don't enjoy those kinds of games,
Geoff 5:35
yeah. So the difference here is that the werewolf is like, like, you get a bunch of people around, and you deal them all a secret role, and you could be villager, or you could be a werewolf. In simpler terms, pretty
Georgie 5:55
similar.
Geoff 5:55
There's the roles, yeah, there's a lot of other roles. Like you could, like you said, this year is also one role, and then, like, I don't know kind Dracula, any case. So everybody kind of has to convince everybody else that they are not the werewolf, and the werewolves need to convince everyone that they're also not the werewolves, and so that you you kind of start at a pretty awkward situation where you just say, Oh, I'm not the werewolf, and then they either that makes you suspicious or they trust you. It's like,
Georgie 6:39
it's Yeah, I don't. Yeah,
Geoff 6:41
zero information, essentially,
Georgie 6:44
yeah, I'm not. I'm not a fan of those kinds of games. But it's a, I guess it's a sort of similar premise to where words, except like you're trying to guess a word.
Geoff 6:58
Okay, secret word.
Georgie 7:00
Wait, you have you played this one? No, I haven't played it. Ah. So if you're the if you're the werewolf, you're trying to get people further away from the from the word. That's interesting. And if, but if you're the seer, you're trying to help people get more towards the word. And then after time is up, people have to guess who the werewolf is.
Geoff 7:27
Yeah, that's even harder,
Georgie 7:29
is it? Because there's a word involved, and you got to ask questions and stuff. I
Geoff 7:35
mean, like, you kind of don't kill anyone off, right? No, it's
Georgie 7:41
just like, You got to either get the word or you or you don't. It's any does? You can just play as many rounds as you can, yeah? So it's, I guess it's not as like, what do you call it social,
Geoff 7:51
yeah? Well, well, yeah, the then that, I think that's kind of like, yeah, harder, in a way, because you have to try. You're starting from a place of trust or distrust that that someone's asking the right questions to get them closer or further away. And
Georgie 8:11
I think, yeah, you're assuming, yeah, you're assuming that everyone is fine at first, but then after the round you you assess, go, Hey, Georgie, asked a lot of questions that were like, super fucking weird she might be.
Geoff 8:26
Yeah, and there's no harm in having your identity revealed. Like, if you can just play the game again, because if you're the seer in werewolf, then you don't want the werewolves to know that you're the seer, because the seer,
Georgie 8:46
yeah, exactly, yeah. I think I may have played before and then fucking hated it, because
Geoff 8:52
yeah, exactly. So if this so the seer knows who the werewolves are, so they're trying to but the werewolves don't know who this year is. Yeah, that's right. Guide the villagers to making the right decision on who to kill, the night, the next the next round. And if you make it too obvious here this year, the werewolves would just kill you. And, yeah, the villagers could also opt to kill the CEO, like even though they're trying to help, but they can't tell you this year, but you're in your case, like you can just out yourself as the seer, but of course, werewolves would also out themselves as a seer. I know what the word is, trust me, but we don't trust you, yeah,
Georgie 9:35
but it's mostly like you kind of gage you kind of gage it by like, the way that you interact in the round of like asking questions to try and figure out what the word is. Well, you know what the word is if you're the werewolf of the seer. So, yeah, you know that. You know the word is. The villagers don't know the word. But as a as a werewolf, you're trying to direct the. Away from the word Right, right? And then this, yeah, the seer is trying to direct them towards the word, but yeah, you just have to kind of assess people's questions and be like,
Geoff 10:13
did you like ask such weird questions,
Georgie 10:18
or you you are, yeah,
Geoff 10:19
if you're not building on someone's previous question, you could actually be seen as sauce. Yes, sauce. Or you're building on that person's question because they're in the wrong direction and you want to leave
Georgie 10:33
and you can, oh yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah,
Geoff 10:36
oh yeah, yeah. You're, you're right. It does. It does seem like this word is is more plausible than the other ones. So let's just keep going down this rabbit hole.
Georgie 10:45
But the thing is, like the met the mayor is, is telling you, like, yes or no, like, so yeah, so you're getting more information. But then, yeah, okay, I realize it's very weird explaining games sometimes,
Geoff 11:03
oh, man, I had to explain this most. I have to explain most board games that I play with my coworkers because, because you're just the one who knows. Yeah, I played most of them before, and I would suggest most of the games because I played them before. So round one, I smashed them, and then round two, they understand the game and they smash me.
Georgie 11:29
So like, for me, it's just always hard to, like, understand the game until I start playing. So like, if someone tells me a bunch of instructions, I'm just like, What the fuck that just went over my head.
Geoff 11:38
So what I tried do is like, Oh yeah, Marina, explain that there's like, two core things or something like that, and you, you basically don't want to do one or the other. So like, Ticket to Ride classic, right? And I play it a lot with two people, but it's obviously really different with four people. Yeah,
Georgie 12:07
like, things become exponentially, kind of like, more difficult because,
Geoff 12:11
yeah, your competition is greater. So I tried to, like, explain rules as they as they become relevant.
Georgie 12:22
Yeah, because it when you explain it like a lot, sometimes just hard to know until you actually start playing the game. Although I have seen many a video meme about board game instructions, yeah, I don't know if you've seen them, but it's just kind of like, oh, well, you don't want to do that, because if you use that token, you will end up doing this, and then this will actually kill that other person, and then you will lose your swag, and your swag will be like, in the drain, and then that person's gonna throw two bananas at you, eat 50 coins and deadly nightshade. So are you sure you want to do that? And then you're just like, seems
Geoff 12:59
like an urban specific example,
Georgie 13:03
like, I made that up, but that was the general, like, gist of the video, which I feel like a lot of complicated games feel that way, and I tend to avoid the ones that have a bit more complexity to them, because I find them less enjoyable. And it's like, by the time I understand what's going on, no one wants to play anymore, because we played like, five rounds, and it's just like, yeah, games, I'm done. I'm like, what I only started to understand it just now. Yeah,
Geoff 13:32
that's why we try to play two games of any one of any new game. But as a person who kind of plays complex board games once a month, and sometimes two complex board games once a month. It's kind of like just like throw like, we'll watch playthroughs before we go to board game days. And we kind of get the gist of, okay, so everyone's got like this, like your orc or a Hobbit or an elf.
Georgie 14:05
Homework before I have to play, yeah,
Geoff 14:08
you have, you have three different actions that you can do, and then like, this is how you This is like, some of the actions that would lead you to win, like, win points, and the goal is to win more points. So that's kind of like the basic understanding that we walk away from the videos, and then we just play the game and figuring out the rules as we go, oh, this board game that was really nice looking. Well, it was like, kind of, was it based in China or Japan, either way, it was one of those games where you like, it's kind of territory based where you have to win some shit, kind of like, kind of like risk, but also kind of not, kind of like Catan i. Um,
Georgie 15:01
played that but, but also played significantly less games than you.
Geoff 15:05
Yeah, I mean, it was like, it was simple to, like, understand what you were doing, right? You place a green tile, and you place a green governor, and then every time that there's a event that happens, you get a green token, and that is good, like you're getting green tokens, is good. And then there's like, four colors, so green, white, yellow, red. You're collecting them all. As long as you can collect them all, you're good, right? But then the complexity increases. As soon as what happens when a green governor on one green tile and another player puts their green governor on the same green tile. Yeah, conflict. So that's okay. That's where the complexity comes in. So you have to decide which green Governor stays or leaves. You fight exactly, and the rules of fighting are really, like intricate
Georgie 16:03
Fuck, man. Like, I thought this was just about green governors and green tiles, and now there's like another layer of shit.
Geoff 16:09
So each of the each of us have our specific sets of things we can do, and everyone can do the same things. They can either place a governor or place a tile and and then like, but the complexity is, when everybody does wants that tile, or like connects some sort of collection of tiles
Georgie 16:33
to another, is this not a little bit like Monopoly? No, you know, like you land on a fucking property, or like, you land on a thing, you can buy it. Or, like, if someone else lands on it, they have to, like, there's multiple different things you can do, no,
Geoff 16:47
but you can't. You can't sell your property to the to the other person. Like, if they land on it, you're like, Oh, I'll buy a bid and outbid you on your own property and buy it from you. So you owe me instead.
Georgie 17:01
I guess thinking about, I guess more about, like, what different things you can do in the game when it's your turn. Yeah,
Geoff 17:07
that's true. It's like changing landscape. I guess at the beginning of monopoly, everyone is like, buying things, yeah. Then like, Oh, now I can't land on some things, otherwise it penalizes you. And that that's like, yeah, pretty simple. But imagine 3d monopoly, where you're like
Georgie 17:26
three, it is 3d talking about,
Geoff 17:32
like chess. Wait, how
Georgie 17:34
does is that like an eight by eight by eight, or something? No
Geoff 17:37
three, three chess is like this. It's like a tower,
Georgie 17:43
yeah? As in, it's like X, Y and Z axis. Oh, what the
Geoff 17:48
fuck three of this? Yeah.
Georgie 17:51
So there's three chessboards. I thought it was gonna be like eight.
Geoff 17:57
Like, it's three chessboards, and you and you start, like, on the top right, on top right and top bottom left. So you can actually, like, traverse up the boards. I actually don't know how to play 3d chess, but big bang theory had a set so, so, I mean, I guess on a diagonal, your horse is diagonal, like, if you're here and your king's up there, then maybe, so you can use levels, but, yeah, okay, you could move over the other level, and then, like, all of a sudden, you're not in check, but you're still, I don't know. Anyway, it's a Star Trek thing. Of course, it's a Star Trek thing. So, yeah, I have no idea how to play 3d chess, but yes, it's not. It is, of course, three dimensional. But, yeah, I don't even know what like go. Do you know the rules of go that's really complicated? What's go? Go is a ancient game of more complex game than chess.
Georgie 19:03
That just sounds terrifying. So
Geoff 19:05
I can't remember who plays it the most, but maybe Japanese created it. Did Japanese create shogi? I think this is Chinese. Anyways, it looks like reversi. I
Georgie 19:21
don't think I've played that, but I've heard of it. Yeah,
Geoff 19:23
so reverse these rules
Georgie 19:24
totally shit. I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna diss on it immediately. No information. It's not
Geoff 19:30
even the same game. But reversi is like, if you have a black a black stone, and then you have a white stone, and you put the black stone, the white stone next to the black stone, nothing happens. But if you all of a sudden put a white stone on both the left and right side of black stone, the black stone turns white, so the more right.
Georgie 19:54
So you're cornering your opponent. You're trying to fuel the. Pieces and you turn Okay, yeah,
Geoff 20:03
but this is nothing like reversi. I just wanted to explain Rosi. So I don't exactly know how to win this game, but the general gist that I understand is that you're fighting for control. You're fighting for area control. So this is, like, the bottom right is got like, five, like five contiguous or seven or eight contiguous black stones. And that is, like an area between the black stones is your area, and that's how many points you have. So there's a lot of invasion and a lot of like, how do you how do you move? You Don't you know how you place you place stones.
Georgie 20:41
Oh, you put things down. Oh, right. Never move them.
Geoff 20:46
So I think it's like, supposed to mimic war, so you can, kind of like, trick your opponent into thinking that you're trying to control this area, but simultaneously you're actually setting up for a different area that you want to control.
Georgie 21:00
Gotcha distracted. So it's kind of like chess, but different,
Geoff 21:05
yeah, yeah, kind of like chess, but different that you've got them know your next move, yes, yes. But chess is kind of solved to be too fair. Like, I think after I like, first time
Georgie 21:15
specific this, like, because each piece has a specific way of like, yeah, such and the objective is the same,
Geoff 21:24
yeah, yeah. I mean, like, I think this, they said that after the first nine or 12 moves, there's only statistically yes statistically, there's only so many different, like other variations, that it's kind of like obvious. If everyone plays perfect chess, they will always like either stalemate or if they're like after the first nine moves, you can tell if who's gonna lose, who's gonna lose and who's gonna win. If they play perfect chess, if they make the most optimal move every single time, you will still every nine after, after the first nine moves, you'll know who's gonna win lose. But yeah, that's kind of just like statistically. Of course, people always, always can't make the perfect move because they don't see the board omnipotently,
Georgie 22:14
yeah, because you don't know what your opponent's fucking doing either. So
Geoff 22:17
you can guess their optimal move and make them an optimal right?
Georgie 22:21
But still, you can't predict the future. Well,
Geoff 22:25
most, uh, most chess masters can anyways, so I tried to, like, with Ticket to Ride. It's like, oh, what are these tunnels? And I'll just tell you, if you need to go on them, it's like, okay, I need to grab them and explain them all, for when you go on them. And yeah, usually takes a couple rounds before everyone kind of, like, gets the gist of the game. But, but yeah, like you said, not You're not too into the placement games.
Georgie 23:00
I I'm into, like, really, like simple games, and then like, the more conversational ones,
Geoff 23:06
yeah, I mean, that's the social engineering,
Georgie 23:12
not really. It's different. It's kind of like, it's the ones that about, like, like party. What do you call them?
Geoff 23:21
Do you like argumentative games?
Georgie 23:23
No, not, not the ones with like conflict and like arguing and shit, but the ones where just, like getting to know people or whatever, or, yeah,
Geoff 23:35
there's not very many games about getting to know someone, unless it's getting to know how brutal they are when they have to
Georgie 23:42
nah, the one I have is called, you think you know me and the creator, she made, actually, she made a game recently that I played at EXO, and it's called hurt party. It's a game of bad apologies. And so there are, like, hurt cards saying, like, whatever you're hurt about, and then apology cards, and you take turns to draw a hurt card, and it's maybe like, you ate my piece of cake or whatever. And then there's like, a bunch of bad apologies, like, I'm sorry. I don't remember it that way, or don't you care about my feelings. And then you use the apology cards to make up an apology. And it could be really like, it could be really, like, a bad one, or it could be, like, super sincere. So, like, I was playing with some people, and I think the the hurt card was, you tracked mud into my house. And then I think my apology was like, Oh, don't you care about my needs. I needed to bring one into and then she picked mine over the others, because she was like, Yeah, I actually, I care about other people's needs.
Geoff 24:51
Wait, what's the what's the aim of the game to convince people your apology is great,
Georgie 24:57
yeah, but, like, it's obviously a. Little bit subjective, so they could choose it because it's sincere. Like, great as insincere or it's fucking hilarious. So they'll take it like, I think one of the, yeah, I want another one. And then when they choose your apology, you win the hurt card. And if you get, like, six or seven, then you win. So I won another one where the hurt card said something like, oh, you spoiled the movie that I wanted to see. And then my apology. My apology was, Oh, are you happy now you don't have to see the movie anymore.
Geoff 25:35
I saved you 20 bucks, yeah and yes. Movies are now $20 per person.
Georgie 25:41
I found that out the other day, like, because we saw Deadpool and Wolverine. Of course we did, because there's no other fucking movie that I care to watch right now. Yeah, I think it was $25 Wow. The ads were like, fucking half an hour, maybe 25 minutes. But I was like, holy shit. Like, if I'd known this, I would have gone and peed or something, yeah,
Geoff 26:08
like, it's been the 25 to 30 minutes for a long time. I think, well,
Georgie 26:15
you're talking to me. I don't watch so I was just annoyed and could not sit still and like, I just want to see this movie already took me a lot of effort, yeah, to come and sit here in this stupid dark room.
Geoff 26:36
Yeah. I mean, like, what was the last movie you watched before Deadpool, Wolverine, yeah, actually, Chris was
Georgie 26:42
asking me, like, and it took me a really long time to fucking like, remember? And I think it may have been, the thing is, like, I think it might have been one of the Star Wars ones, because Nick is a fan, and he always wants to see the Star Wars films at at the cinema. But excluding those, because I just feel like that's a little bit different. It may have been Paddington two. Oh,
Geoff 27:06
there's a Paddington two. Oh,
Georgie 27:07
my God, it's yes, and it's better than the first I'm not even joking. It's one of those movies where the sequel is
Geoff 27:14
better than the first one. Possible.
Georgie 27:17
No, no, it's so true. Like, have you seen Terminator?
Geoff 27:21
Yeah, no, yeah, one and two,
Georgie 27:25
like, one and maybe two Judgment Day, when he's actually, like, a good actually, don't
Geoff 27:30
know, okay,
Georgie 27:32
so the reason that the Terminator two Judgment Day was good was because the Terminator was not this, not the bad guy. He was in term eight one. So it was a different story, like, you didn't know what to expect. So it was that was like, why it was good. And then Paddington two was a lot more entertaining than the first one. Like, I've, I've actually re watched Paddington today as someone who fucking hates movies. I've rewatched Paddington to a bunch of times because it was one of those ones where kind of keeps you on the edge of your seat. It's quite entertaining. Yeah, the story is. The storyline was just, I think, a bit more interesting
Geoff 28:16
storyline for Paddington too.
Georgie 28:18
Well, I've forgotten now because it's been a fucking while, I'm trying to remember, look it up. Are we on the internet?
Geoff 28:30
No, we're Luddites, whatever the name is. Yeah, Paddington two.
Georgie 28:39
I'm because I don't want to spoil there was a part in it, synopsis, plot, plot, like, I think he gets into trouble. He gets into trouble.
Geoff 28:58
Wait, quick answer for pain, dude. Pain is trying to save up money, but to buy a unique pop up book of London as a 100th birthday gift for his 100th she's 100 Aunt Lucy, yeah, okay, wait, don't read
Georgie 29:14
the whole thing, because this whole spoiler, but it says, yeah, the book is stolen, since book is stolen and he's wrongly accused and imprisoned. Wait,
Geoff 29:22
they imprisoned Paddington the bear. Yeah, that's wild. And then,
Georgie 29:27
like, what was Paddington one? I forgot. I've forgotten now, but it's just not as an interesting of a plot. One,
Geoff 29:36
synopsis, um, let's
see. Just one pan into the anthropotic. Oh. It's
Georgie 29:50
just about him being like, yeah, being Yeah, and then found by the fan, you know, yeah,
Geoff 29:57
yeah, yeah. We watched migration, actually. Like, what is migration that turned out much better than like anticipated. Migration is about like ducks. Migration, I like ducks. Wait, is this rabbit? What do you see? What do
Georgie 30:16
you Oh, my God, I you tell me about one of those things?
Geoff 30:18
Yeah.
Georgie 30:19
Oh, my God, the head, the head of the duck in the room. Yeah.
Geoff 30:23
Who do you what do you see?
Georgie 30:25
I see both, yeah, I can, I can make my eyes switch. Fuck you, Jeff. What
Geoff 30:32
did you see first? I can't say both. Bad, yeah. I thought it's a tree. All right. What
Georgie 30:41
did I see? All right, tell you what I saw. First I saw the eye, I fucking saw the eye, and
Geoff 30:47
then you noticed, which is the next part you saw? Was it an ears or a beak?
Georgie 30:58
The thing is, I've seen this so many times, right? You've seen it too, right? That's why you brought it up, yeah. But if you showed it to me on a different day, I may have seen a different thing first. So today I can tell you I fucking saw, okay, I saw this mutated I saw the rabbit with some fucked up ears. Showed me a different, like, seriously, like, the rabbit part is,
Geoff 31:27
so migration is about, it's about ducks migrate, migrating, but it's about this, like, animated, yeah, and it's not even so, this is the wild thing. Who do you think animated this movie?
Georgie 31:46
Just by you show me a picture? Well, it's, it's, uh, it's given, like, chicken run. You remember that? Yeah, yeah, like Wallace and Gromit, kind of, you know, way, hang on. So hang on. You tell Wait, is it like Pixar? Is that what you're trying to tell like, yeah, yeah, Pixar,
Geoff 32:04
or is it DreamWorks? Or is it, yeah, it
Georgie 32:07
could be Pixar or DreamWorks, right? Like, yeah, yeah. I feel like it could be Pixar, but something about the vibe of it is telling me maybe it's actually DreamWorks. It's
Geoff 32:17
neither of them, okay, it's, illumination which has done things like minions,
Georgie 32:24
right and and what was the Incredibles?
Geoff 32:33
Universal pick illumination. So they're a division of, I think something Secret Life of Pets sing and Despicable Me, which I thought was also a DreamWorks Animation, Despicable Me, right? But no, anyways, so um, basically, it's about like this, this family of mallards, right? Yep. For those who don't know, Mallard is a type of duck. In any case, he's, like, really scared of the outside world. So they've picked a pond. I mean, they've they, like, live in this pond, and they don't go anywhere. They like, they don't migrate. Better, better house and like, like, they got, like, a nice trunk, and they're like, safe and sound, right? And they don't, they don't migrate. I think that the, I think ducks usually migrate, I don't know. Anyways, I think so. So they don't migrate anywhere, because he's scared shitless. And then all of us, like, one migration period came along, and a bunch of other ducks came to their pond just to stop by on the way to Jamaica. And it's basically, oh, like they the ducks, the newcomer ducks, like, convinced the family that migration is a great idea and that they should come to Jamaica with them. But of course, the dad is too scared shitless to agree, and he was like, Nah, we don't have to migrate. We've got our own home here. It's all nice and nice and safe here, right? Yeah, so it's, it's about this family who had never seen the outside world just to try to migrate, try to do migration for the first time. Yeah, that's about it. So they, of course, come into some pretty interesting trials. And yeah, this is, it's a it's a nice movie, and well paced. I think
Georgie 34:47
cool. I should check it out. Watch me not check it out for like 10 years.
Geoff 34:54
Yeah, absolutely, yeah. That's why I'm starting now.
Georgie 34:58
You strapped me to the chair. Yeah, I still haven't seen inside out too.
Geoff 35:04
I mean, is it better than inside out one? Oh, so
Georgie 35:09
you've seen it, yeah, it's different, right? Yeah, okay, I
Geoff 35:13
think it builds on the same premise, and that's why it's not as good as the first one, because there's emotions in the head, and it was very well characterized, and they just kind of build up on that one. So yeah, there are definitely more interesting things that happen, because adolescent, teenager and adolescence introduces some level of complexity to the yeah to the mix. But you can't say it's as good or better than the first
Georgie 35:50
I really liked the first one,
Geoff 35:52
yeah. So I think you should, yeah. It's like Harry Potter.
Georgie 35:57
I hate Harry Potter. Well, so if I hate them all,
Geoff 36:02
it's kind of like, I mean, is any, any kind of world building, right? Avatar, Last Airbender I hate.
Georgie 36:08
Wait, hang on. I I mean, I can't say that because I haven't actually seen avatar. Am I allowed to say that I just fucking
Geoff 36:15
hated it like no
Georgie 36:18
Georgie hates all movies by default. The goal is to convince her that they are good.
Geoff 36:23
I mean, if you think they're a waste of time entirely, then it's not really useful to convince you.
Georgie 36:31
Someone knows what's up. You see, some people will try and convince me, and then, just like waste their energy trying to convince me to watch shit. Yeah, that's really
Geoff 36:39
interesting. When someone gets so passionate about stuff, yeah, and they're like, oh, you should just try it, because they think that you'll be equally passionate about it. Just doesn't work that way. Yeah.
Georgie 36:50
So like, this person I used to work with was trying to convince me to watch a certain movie, like when I said I didn't like movies, and he said, oh, you should watch this. And I told Chris this story, and he's like, That's so dumb. Like, you've already decided that you don't like movies. This all encompassing thing, like, one movie isn't gonna suddenly, fucking overnight. Oh, my God, I
Geoff 37:13
love movies now. I mean, if you think, like, yeah, if you conceptually don't like something, like, if your take is movies are too long, I can't sit still for that long, and I lose interest midway. Then no, no amount of movie is going to Yeah,
Georgie 37:32
and it's like, I like Deadpool because I had managed my seat and I didn't like I. My mind did not wander once during like, Deadpool one. But that does not mean that I, quote, unquote, like,
Geoff 37:45
yeah. I mean, I also say this about musicians, right? I've probably said it a few times on this podcast. Do you mean, like live? I like, No, I like songs. I don't I don't subscribe to albums or any particular musician. I won't listen to every like every song of the same musician, not going to like all of them so. But you get, you get some people who are like, Oh, I like every song that this musician has come out with. That's
Georgie 38:15
bullshit. I call bullshit. No, well, I don't know. Like, yeah, yeah. I call bullshit. I think you got to have some opinion, like, diverse opinion about even someone you think is, like, the greatest whatever of all time, like, Come on, man, the Beatles had some shit songs too, or did they?
Geoff 38:38
I don't think so. What was that? Yeah, did queen have shit songs?
Georgie 38:46
I mean, like the Indian rap city is too fucking long. Maybe
Geoff 38:48
it's not equivalent to movies. Because you could, you could say that, like Michael Jackson was the, like, the goat of rock, the pop rock, or whatever pop, yeah, but then you can like, well, I liked one song, but that does that make him king of pop? Probably not to me. Anyways, people
Georgie 39:11
have differing opinion. Well, people have differing opinions about movies as well,
Geoff 39:15
yeah, yeah, and like you and the type of movie someone likes passionately, probably not the type of movie that you will also like. So, yeah,
Georgie 39:27
do not tell me to watch Christopher Nolan, holy shit.
Geoff 39:30
Yeah. I mean, they must be. They could be into film noir and then, like, oh, watching this one film noir is gonna make you love all movies. It's like the one, no, yeah, no.
Georgie 39:44
It doesn't work that way. I think Chris was trying to find like in it sounds a bit formulaic, but he was trying to find what exactly kind of movies that I tend to enjoy. Way. And it's like this weird subset of, sort of, like a genre that's not really a genre, but it's kind of movies that don't exist anymore. There was, like, a certain brand of 80s comedy, you know, like, like, Back to the Future, and like, Beverly Hills Cop, and just like a there's like, a vibe to it. And then there are things like, have you seen 10 Things I Hate About You? Yes, yeah. Then there are movies like that. I mean, like anyone can like it, but, yeah, like, just generally good rom coms, but also, like, some shitty rom coms I'll just put on in the background as well, yeah, but it's just like a very specific kind, and then I like stuff like Scott Pilgrim, oh, yeah, which is like some weird niche of, like, that's a weird fucking movie, you know? Like,
Geoff 40:53
Yeah, I bet an easy, easy way to figure this one out is you gotta go on TV, like, showing the rating for every single movie you like and and discovering that the discrepancy, the discrepancy also the trend, right? If, if it's, if it's cross the board, critically acclaimed, yeah, but you don't like it. That kind of says something about what you like is that you're not into widely, critically, critically
Georgie 41:26
acclaimed, okay, yeah, okay, okay, let's play this game. Okay, so you know what's it called Interstellar. Fucking hated it, yeah. Okay,
Geoff 41:35
so like Deadpool, okay, is eight pointer, but this is what the original, talking about right? Deadpool original, 2016 2013 Oh, wait, Deadpool original,
Georgie 41:50
no, that's a TV series.
Geoff 41:51
That's a TV series only Ryan Reynolds, Deadpool is right, yeah. 2017 Yeah. Wait, no, no, the
Georgie 42:02
one under that, no, wait, 13.
Geoff 42:04
This is no, this is Ryan Reynolds, original one. No, good, dead. Oh, wait, no,
Georgie 42:09
that's not it. Just got Ryan Reynolds.
Geoff 42:12
Do you like Ryan Reynolds?
Georgie 42:14
No, I see I There we go.
Geoff 42:17
Here we go. 8.0 right. This is pretty good. So let's, let's say, I mean 8.0 is pretty good.
Georgie 42:25
Yeah, what's Interstellar? Which I hate?
Geoff 42:27
Interstellar?
Georgie 42:31
8.7 All right, I did not like Eternal Sunshine of Spotless Mind, because it was fucking depressing. And I'm really sorry, I know this is a cult class, point three. Okay, so I like Scott Pilgrim,
Geoff 42:47
you kind of like, you kind of get, like, 7.6
Georgie 42:52
okay. And I like 10 things I heard about
Geoff 42:53
you. I mean, that's like, pretty hard to, I think Heath Ledger 7.3 so to a film critic, yeah, you are trash. Yeah, okay. Paddington below, right, and that's okay. Like the like. Paddington two. Watch this be 7.8 Yeah.
Georgie 43:20
Okay, go inside out. Inside Out.
Geoff 43:23
All right, that's cheating, because it's pixel, is it?
Georgie 43:28
No, I'm gonna say monsters. Inc, well, I haven't seen two, yeah,
Geoff 43:32
excellently, two, but it's 7.7 so it's likely that you'll like it. Oh, wait, what?
Georgie 43:41
It's between the it's between the trailers, between the trailers, between the trailer pictures.
Geoff 43:46
Oh, right. Oh, my God, that's such an annoying. 8.1 so this is your highest rated one so far. All right, back to the future.
Georgie 43:56
Now we're going, we're going in like, Okay, this
Geoff 43:59
is now the highest rated one. But when did people rate this? Like, was it? Oh,
Georgie 44:04
come on, don't disorder, just because it's from 1985 Pulp Fiction. Oh, you
Geoff 44:09
liked Pulp Fiction? Yeah, I guess it does have a lot of things going on. When? When that your attention straight? So 8.9 this is, this is probably your highest acclaimed move. Movie, but like Iron Man? Did you like Iron Man?
Georgie 44:25
I haven't seen Iron Man. Well, that should look up. Yeah,
Geoff 44:29
it's 7.9 so you probably like it.
Georgie 44:33
Okay? Terminator. Two. Judgment Day
Geoff 44:40
two. Oh yeah, two, Judgment Day, 8.6 claimed 90s. It's like but this is
Georgie 44:52
also proving that my taste is not shit. Yeah, right. So for the
Geoff 44:56
90s, for the 2000s maybe. I mean, 8.0 is nothing to sneeze. To be fair, I don't think, I don't think I know any movies that are, like, rated nine or 10 to Yeah.
Georgie 45:09
Now I want to know, can is there? Surely, there's a list of, like, top, yeah, yeah. I am. DB, oh, look up the pia. This is really, this is really, like, yeah, look up the piano. This is so, no, the piano, piano, yeah, this is really obscure. I don't think a lot of people know that. Yeah, that 119, 93
Geoff 45:26
okay, I don't know this one. 7.5 Wait, this guy is it's got this. Sam Neill, yes, um, all right, so this, here's here. There's a top 250 movies, Shawshank, redemption, nine point, I
Georgie 45:43
haven't seen
Geoff 45:43
it, Godfather, I haven't watched that you have. Did you like it? Do you remember liking it? I don't remember liking it. The Dark Knight.
Georgie 45:54
I've seen that it was so okay. My real opinions, my real opinions, coming out. Lord of the Rings, hated it. Go away. Did
Geoff 46:05
you watch and listen?
Georgie 46:08
No, I haven't seen it. Oh, Forrest. Gump, yeah, yeah. 8.8
Geoff 46:13
still. Sub. I mean, what is not like? Oh, I
Georgie 46:17
hated the matrix. Here we go. Everyone I have not just hate hype, just like it's probably true.
Geoff 46:24
I mean, I also hate Interstellar. Yeah, interstellar on this time, look,
Georgie 46:31
look. Interstellar was okay, but I feel like there was a point. Basically the whole third act was useless to me,
Geoff 46:38
June, do you like dune? I haven't watched dune because, you know what I also didn't like, is it 8.9 it's it's 8.0 but it is on board. It's two and a half hours of nothing. Yeah,
Georgie 46:52
you know,
Geoff 46:53
I was just like, there's just nothing going on for two and a half hours. But you know what else is not going this podcast is not going on for two and a half hours, so you can follow us on nothing, but you can reach out if you have the urge, via the email, the email toastroastpod@pm.me toastroastpod@pm.me
Georgie 47:23
do not email me any movie recommendations.
Geoff 47:26
Email all the movie recommendations to Georgie,
Georgie 47:29
yeah, that'd be pretty far. Let's see what happens. Let's see if someone seriously thinks they can like I know. Maybe it should be a game. Pick a movie that you think I'll like it. We'll see. Hey, see, Terminator two is on there. Back to the PC. Look, I'm good. I'm
Geoff 47:44
not that bad. See if you if there's any, oh, The Green Mile was good. I haven't watched The Green Mile. Oh, you should watch parasite. That'll make you Oh, no, life on movies. Yeah, really, no, I fucking hate
Georgie 48:01
horror. So that's why, horror, so that's why I'm probably not even
Geoff 48:04
full. Anyways,
Georgie 48:07
yeah, anyway you can, yeah, you can find our podcast on Apple podcast, Spotify, wherever you listen to your podcast, and the big list of top 250 movies that we never got to the end of
Geoff 48:24
and you episodes every week. So Monday, bye, bye.